At any rate, the conversation was good and ranged over a number of topics. Jim offered a lot of good insights, and one that especially struck me was something he said in response to a comment by one of the Wheaton Bible pastors. The pastor said that he had grown up with a faith that was mainly just about being a good person. Jim suggested that it might not have been mostly about being a "good person" but really more about just not acting like a bad person. And further, he suggested that if we were really concerned with being good and doing good, that would look very different than if we're just concerned with avoiding being bad.
I thought that was an exceptionally profound insight. Jim, of course, is very right. In the legalistic Christian circles I've been exposed to as well, the focus really wasn't so much on trying to actually do good works. The focus was primarily just on avoiding sin, on not doing certain "bad" behaviors that were associated with a certain stereotype of "bad" people - e.g. smoking, drinking, cussing, going to R-rated movies or listening to secular music, etc. If we avoided these sins, we thought we were pretty good people, even if we never actively did any positive good things (like helping those in need, standing up for the oppressed, loving our enemies, giving our care and attention to others around us, etc.)
And Jim is right that actively trying to be good will look very different than simply trying not to be bad. The legalism of the latter would be replaced by a missional attitude, and by spiritual habits that help us start being aware of others around and how we can serve them. The focus shifts from being all about me and my own moral purity, to how I can love and encourage others.
In some ways I think actively trying to be good is harder and more challenging than just trying not to sin. It certainly takes more creativity. Though, on the other hand, I personally find it more freeing and more exciting as well. It's depressing to be constantly thinking about all the things you're not supposed to do because you're a Christian. It's more invigorating to think about the difference you can make in the world by doing good.
Labels: missional
At 5/11/2007 03:43:00 PM, Unknown
Waves to Jim Henderson!! (Julie Bogart here)
Mike I came to find your email address and discovered you know Jim. He's a good friend of ours. Anyway, my purpose in writing to you is to thank you for your terrific comments at Jesus Creed, vis a vis politics and postmodern critique of power structures that oppress. Yes!
Somehow it seems that many evangelicals are wary of admitting that oppression is a part of this question. They'd rather focus on whether or not it's biblical to "permit" women leadership in ministry. Yet they miss the point... women have not been permitted to be leaders for centuries and it was political changes that have caused us to reevaluate, not better biblical exegesis.
Thumbs up!
At 5/11/2007 05:45:00 PM, Mike Clawson
Thanks Julie. A lot of people don't realize that the whole postmodern movement (at least in philosophy) was begun in response to WWII when Westerners started to realize how oppressive their ideological systems (whether Communism or Facism or Capitalism or religious fundamentalism, or patriarchy, etc...) had really become. It's like we needed the wake-up call of a World War and a Holocaust to finally make us look in the mirror and see what our theologies and ideologies were really causing us to become and how they were justifying injustice.
At 5/11/2007 07:45:00 PM, Dan Barnett.
This is a great thought. Being good, while it does involve not sinning, it also involves so much more. The religious leaders in the NT were so concerned with the tora that they neglected all the needy among much else. I think Jesus made it very clear in Matt.25. Besides the Commandment wasn't Don't sin with all you are. It was love God with all you are, and love people. The not sinning comes naturally through this. BTW, just saw the new tagline, very funny. :-) I actually looked pensees up on dictionary.com last night to see what it meant. Good post Mike.
"I think actively trying to be good is harder and more challenging than just trying not to sin"
I do to.
Mike it was a pleasure to be with you today. I am excited to see your interest in helping other leaders.
Jim