Emerging Pensees
thoughts on God, faith, life, and the emerging church... btw, "pensees" is French for thoughts. get your mind out of the gutter ;)
about


Name: Mike Clawson
From: Austin, Texas, United States
About me: A follower of the way of Christ, a "postmodern" Christian, an amateur theologian/ philosopher, a husband, a father, a student, a friend...
More..
Contact: mike(dot)clawson
(at)gmail(dot)com


My Facebook Profile:
http://www.facebook.com/ mike.clawson1
Blog Categories
  • - atheism
  • - book reviews
  • - emerging church
  • - Emma
  • - Aidan
  • - fun
  • - personal
  • - politics
  • - social justice
  • - theology
Jon Stewart on the SOTU Overall, I didn't think he said much of anything.

I thought the scariest bit was "if you adhere to our common values you should be treated no different than anyone else," but I'm hoping it was just poor writing rather than the creation of a litmus test for being protected by the Constitution.

I thought the most insulting bit was: "I campaigned on the promise of change – change we can believe in, the slogan went. ... But remember this – I never suggested that change would be easy, or that I can do it alone."

At this stage, he doesn't get to lay the blame on us: he's the one that didn't show up. And I was reminded of the words of Howard Zinn:

"I think our first step is to organize ourselves and protest against existing order – against war, against economic and sexual exploitation, against racism, etc. But to organize ourselves in such a way that means correspond to the ends, and to organize ourselves in such a way as to create kind of human relationship that should exist in future society. That would mean to organize ourselves without centralize [sic] authority, without charismatic leader, in a way that represents in miniature the ideal of the future egalitarian society."

He's had his chance. Now's the time to be the change ourselves.
"At this stage, he doesn't get to lay the blame on us: he's the one that didn't show up."

How do you figure? The way I see it, he's been working his ass off this past year to get stuff done, and hit nothing but roadblock after roadblock from obstructionist Republicans, incompetent Dems, and the non-stop media carnival.

And how is what he was saying significantly different from what you just said? Hasn't Obama been saying that we have to "be the change" ourselves since the beginning? The other night he just reminded us that he can't do it on his own and never promised to.
This is a great ppost thanks What I Like About the New Health Care Bill To bad it won't get passed the Senate. It's looking pretty badly. I do hope that maybe someone else will pick up the ball and continue the fight after it's denied. We NEED reform and we shouldn't give up. I don't think they'll let this go, and I hope they'll look at all sides and try to work with everyone. Republicans had many, many good points, and the Democrats were the ones to actually go through with this change (which is very brave)and initiate the big picture. My thoughts run more with Kucinich's analysis. Of course, his desired alternative is single-payer whereas mine is free-market reform, but I can definitely agree with him that (a) this bill is (at least marginally) worse than what we have now and (b) for all the faults I see with it, single-payer could hypothetically be better than what we have now.

The one thing I really don't like about it is individual mandates. Insurance companies have been fighting for decades to get these and it's pretty clear that forcing people to buy insurance no matter what it costs isn't a good incentive to keeping costs down.

Regarding your point (4), you should note that the bill also exempts the insurance companies from many types of lawsuits, so while they are required to keep accepting premiums from you without regard to pre-existing conditions, you'd have basically no recourse if they decided to deny any treatment anyway.

Regarding (6), the Right won't need to tip-toe around why they're voting against this. The most recent polls I've seen say that most members of the public expect their coverage to become both more expensive and worse because of this bill (I think they're right about the expensive part and couldn't say about the quality part), so the Right doesn't really need an excuse.

This kind of thing is what scares me most about a bill like this, as a government-subsidized "public" option can underperform private rivals and still offer lower costs due to taxpayer subsidies, leading to an eventual government takeover of the health care system (to an even more extreme degree than we already have). At that point, we get a de facto ban on abortions, birth control, contraceptives, HPV vaccines, HIV testing, and anything else conservatives decide to be against (as well as the things the loony-left is against, such as vaccinations in general) pushed through with rhetoric to the effect of "no, we're not banning it; we're just saying that the public shouldn't have to pay for it (and that private individuals shouldn't be able to pay for it)."
Just curious where you are getting the 30% from #1. As I understand it, there are many non-profit insurance companies, which means 0% is going toward shareholders, right?
http://www.nonprofithealthcare.org/resources/BasicFactsAndFigures-NonprofitHealthPlans9.9.08.pdf
So is that 30% a worst case, or an average?
I don't have a link to the exact figures John. It's just something I've read in numerous articles - that among private insurance companies, an average of 30% of every dollar spent for health care goes to overhead costs for the insurance company (including shareholder profits where applicable), as compared to single-payer government plans in other countries where, on average, about 10% of every dollar spent goes to administrative overhead.

At any rate, I don't know if these "non-profit" insurance companies are any better at keeping their overhead costs down than the for-profit ones, but I don't see how it really makes a difference since as of right now, the vast majority of Americans don't get any say in what insurance provider they have to use anyhow. It's either chosen for them by their employer, or (as in our case) their options are severely limited by various pre-existing conditions. This is not a free-market system since the vast majority of consumers have no choice in the matter. So, as I see it, the public option, the insurance exchange, and the lifting of pre-existing conditions exclusions are all measures that will serve to give us, the consumers, more options and more choices - at letting free market principles finally come into play for once, at least to a limited but still relatively greater degree than they are now. In that respect, you could almost call this a "Republican" style plan. It's certainly a lot less than what most liberals were hoping for, which should make all y'all conservatives happy.
Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right No flames here Mike. I have to agree that using the "they started it" or "she did it too" argument is lame (trust me I know, I've used it) and adds no value to the discussion. Disagreements on politics or religion are not a bad thing, but it's best to discuss them with rational arguments rather then finger pointing and name calling. "Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right."
-- H.L. Mencken

Both parties have to resort to these kind of tactics, since neither has any real ideas.

Nonetheless, it's entirely proper to direct the majority of one's criticism against the conservatives. Republicans offer us 1984; Democrats offer us Brave New World. Both options suck, but until a third choice becomes available, I'll opt for the latter.
No intense flames from this side either.

I do want to mention that just the word criticize falls into one of my pet peeves. Why criticize either side? I always thought the ideal (please don't say 'but that is not what you doing now') was to be offering a positive alternative. Constant belittling and partisan criticism is a significant part of the problem.

The main reason I have never identified with mainline Protestants is that I am not protesting anything. I stand for truth, love, charity, grace and forgivness.

If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men. (Romans 12:18)
I yearn for civil discussion of ideas with another person. However, I hardly ever find it. I think what you've described is human thing, in that we all want our tribe to win and be right. To do this, we either have to paint ourselves as better than the others or as bad as the others. I must confess, I've used the same tactics against others of differing politics. I think civil discussion is possible, but sometimes I wonder! I'll provide a weak defense of the "the other side does it to" argument, at least in the context of politics. (1) Most Americans consider politics a choice between two parties; it's therefore useful information for the voting public to know that the other party is just as evil as you. (2) Assuming that by "dirty politics," you mean activities that are legal but in undesirable, parties are presumably engaged in them because they're useful, and would be virtuous chumps if they gave them up while the other party kept engaging in them. For example, I don't like gerrymandering, and would prefer that both parties stopped doing it. However, the Democrats would be chumps if they stopped on their own, and I don't really want them to stop, if the Republicans are going to keep doing it when they're in power---that would be idealistic and virtuous, but it would give Republicans a huge unfair advantage. (And conservatives can reasonably swap the words "Democrats" and "Republicans" in the preceding sentence.) Another reason to criticize mostly Republicans is that one just *expects Democrats* to act in those ways, so it's hardly worth noticing, whereas for Republicans it's shocking and unacceptable. ;) (Just a joke.)

Yes, I wish our public dialogs were more civil. But for me it's only partly because I like peace and harmony. The rest of it is that sniping is so distracting and counterproductive. I want facts and reasoned discussion. I wish political debates were more like academic ones. Not that academics are all perfect ladies and gentlemen, but the overall atmosphere seems more reasonable.

Also, I think criticism is important along with giving constructive ideas. People need to know the limits as well as the core of proper behavior. And when someone creates ill will by the things they do, it needs to be dealt with in some way (criticism plus apologies at least) rather than pretending it didn't happen and letting the bad feelings fester. It can clear the air for more constructive dialog to happen.
I'm going to disagree with Milton and say that I more often than not find conversations with another person quite interesting and edifying. The problems come when I (rarely) listen to AM radio or watch political TV news or (more frequently) turn to the Internet for such things. Abstracted from human bodies and human community, interlocutors in such spheres of "discourse" lose humanity in a hurry, dive right down past cheap fiction, and turn quickly into bathroom stall cartoon characters. Mike,

As I have seen from discussions you have had, and I have participated in, it appears to me that the "your side does it too" kind of arguement is more an ad hominem. It is a means of pointing out that it this kind of "bad" thing really bothers you, why do you predominantly point it out on the conservative side? And then that assumption becomes validated because most of the positions you promote are antithetical to the broader conservative principles.

Personally, I appreciate reading how a "progressive" views conservative positions because I know you are not the only one who sees that and it forces me to answer (at least in my own head) the question or disown that position.

That said, there is a difference when a conservative critisizes conservatives and when a former conservative critisizes conservatives. The prior is "nobody better criticize my momma except me." The latter seems more like the fallout of a divorce.
John Mahan makes a good distinction, Mike. That, or something like it, is what has prompted me to object to the one-sidedness of your commentary at times. It usually sounds more like a bitter divorce' than a son who loves and respects his mother.

People like Mark Noll (who has numerous times very nearly turned in his "evangelical" card) are much easier for an evangelical or conservative to hear and receive and take seriously when they speak in criticism of conservatives and evangelicals. In my opinion maybe that's because of the presence of love and respect in their words of criticism and a sense of balance and fairness in their treatment of things.

Not that in order to have a right to ever criticize evangelicals you'd need to have remained an evangelical like Noll (which in other exchanges you've made very clear you have not). But having left one family, to keep on sniping (almost exclusively) at it for traits that usually are common *human* traits exhibiting themselves in ways particular to that family, as if rather than human traits they were indications of that particular family's unique evil . . . that can be more than a little frustrating to read. And yes, it can prompt a reader to point out that you're complaining about a human phenomenon, not a uniquely conservative or evangelical one.

You may say "a pox on both their houses" from time to time and you don't fully "fit" in either camp. I actually expect that over time in a mainline seminary and context you might fit less and less there, because you're clearly an independent thinker who can often see through BS coming from either direction. But for the couple of years or more I've been reading, most of your pox-throwing tends to go in one direction - the direction that you seem *least* fit in with anymore, as far as I can tell. I'd guess that when you were a conservative evangelical and Rush-listener your criticism was one-sided in the other direction rather than offering balanced, equal-opportunity criticism of conservatives, too.

It's not surprising that having realized you disagree with evangelicals and no longer are one, you'd be angry and want to take them on. "The heresies that men do leave/Are hated most of those they did deceive." But if some ex-pcusa or ex-episcopalian was several years out of their mainline context and had found a new, evangelical church where they fit in better but maintained a blog that they dedicated primarily to criticising the hypocrisies and sins of their old denomination while rarely if ever turning an equally critical eye on their new evangelical context - I'd have much the same reaction to them. And there are such people out there, no question.

I don't mean any of that as a flame. You were obviously bothered, and asked a question that you seemed to genuinely want answered honestly.
Thanks for your thoughts Karl. I think my point was more that the "your side does it too" argument doesn't work with me because I'm not on the other side. Whether or not I'm an evangelical anymore (and really, if I'm not, then it wasn't a divorce so much as an abandonment... I never left, but I was pushed out), the fact remains that I haven't joined the PC(USA), nor the Anglican church, nor the Democrats, or whoever. Perhaps I don't have the "right" to criticize where I've come from. I don't know. Regardless though, the "your side does it too" argument is still irrelevant because it's not my side. And while whatever particular problem I'm pointing out may in fact be a general human trait, that still doesn't excuse the particular behavior being exhibited by particular people, and thus bringing up the "both sides do it, therefore it's just human nature" argument still just feels like a dodge to avoid actually dealing with the issue at hand.

In other words, it's not about me. I'm not on any "side" right now, so maybe that means I don't have the right to criticize anyone, I don't know. But it's still a crappy argument regardless. Forget about what side you think I'm on and deal with your own side's issues.
Maybe it's not so much "your side does it too" as "people all around are doing the same thing, so why do you so frequently single out your ex, to tell everyone how evil she is?"

I agree that issues need to be dealt with, not dodged. Saying "we aren't the only ones" doesn't work as argument and it shouldn't be thrown out merely as a conversation stopper. But at times I think it's a valid point to bring up in the context of a larger discussion re. the issue.

It would be like someone from Wheaton who went to grad school at Cal Berkly complaining about the treatment of conservative opinion on Cal's campus by the majority of Cal students and citing it as an example of liberal groupthink and idea suppression. It might be valid to point out to the Wheatie that at her alma mater, the College Democrats were often treated similarly, if not worse, by their fellow Wheaton students. Not as a conversation-ender as if it invalidated what she just said about her experience at Cal or to discourage efforts to change things in her local context, but at least as a perspective check so she remembers not to demonize the people who are currently pissing her off, as if they were uniquely bad in this respect.
I question this implication that it's inappropriate to criticize your "ex". I think those who have been an intimate part of something, and who are in many ways still a part of it, are often in the best position to see it clearly and comment on the things that need to be improved. Who else is going to do it? True outsiders don't know it well enough to really give a valid critique, and insiders who are merely content with the status quo aren't generally interested in even hearing about the flaws, much less doing anything to correct them.

This "you're not one of us anymore, therefore you don't have a right to critique us" seems like a rather convenient tactic for evangelicals to not ever have to face dissent, especially considering most emergents have not deliberately left evangelicalism, but instead, like myself, have been pushed out by those who didn't like the fact that we were questioning the status quo. According to this logic then, all they have to do is define us as "outside the camp", and thereby suddenly let themselves off the hook from ever having to listen to us again or take our critiques seriously. Yes, very convenient.
When people talk about someone criticizing their ex, I think the idea is that the criticism is bitter, exaggerated, and biased against the ex. But I agree with your point about being in a position to know what to criticize. Andy says it well.

There is inside or used-to-be-inside critique of evangelicals (Noll, for example, or the Wittenburg Door, Ron Sider, Bob Webber, Dallas Willard, Scot McKnight or Rob Bell) that is plenty incisive but easier for evangelicals to hear because of the charity, balance, and sense of an attempt at fairness that comes across. There's less of a sense of "those people suck and I should know because I am/used to be one - let's look at another example of their hypocrisy/blindness/stupidity."

Not to say that more critique isn't needed. But I prefer the constructive and charitable variety. That seems to be the kind that is most likely to be heard and actually result in change.

Persistently one-sided barrages aimed at human tendencies as they show up uniquely in your former tribe as if that tribe was uniquely awful are likely to be met with rejoinders of "take a look around you - welcome to the human race."

Now if you want more of a "Don't Date Him Girl" type of website intended to warn everyone of how bad your ex was and to make sure the evil ex doesn't hoodwink anyone else, then that's a different thing altogether and I guess there's a place for such a site. But if it's about constructive dialogue between people on different sides of an issue - a real conversation rather than a harangue - then maybe more balance would help to actually bring about dialogue. And if you aren't offering the balance then don't be surprised if some of your conversation/dialogue partners try to. Not as a conversation stopper or excuse, but for the sake of clarity and fairness and context.
I'm sorry if it seems to you that my blog is too one-sided Karl. Again, I'll point out that I'm perhaps "one-sided" because I don't have "another side" that I'm on. I'm not on whatever "other side" you want to point the finger back at, so to me bringing in the "other side does it too" is still irrelevant because who was talking about them in the first place? Why point out the speck in the mainliners eyes when we still haven't dealt with the plank in our own?

Of course you're entitled to your opinion on whether you think I'm more of a "bitter-ex" than an "insider". So I take it that you don't think there's anything to my suspicion that many evangelicals have deliberately tried to turn folks like me into "exes" so that they can thereby marginalize our critiques? Perhaps we wouldn't feel the need to be quite so critical if we felt like we were being heard.

Of course, here at my blog there's never any need to balance what I say about evangelicals, since I know I can count on you to immediately jump in with it no matter what I say. ;)
Mike, I'm nearly as much of an independent as you claim to be. I'm not interested in dichotomized thinking and my opinions don't line up neatly in any particular category. I do appreciate balance and charity though. There have been many instances where I defended the emerging church to evangelical friends who were being imbalanced and uncharitable in their characterizations of it. I'll defend Sider and Wallis to people who think they're communists, Brian McLaren to people who think he's a heretic, Franky Schaeffer to people who think he's embraced the devil, and evangelicalism to people who think it's uniformly like Falwell and Dobson - just examples.

Unfairness, lack of balance and charity bug me - wherever they come from, whoever they are directed at and regardless of whether the person doing it is an insider, an outsider, or a used-to-be-insider. They get in the way of constructive dialogue and result in only ever preaching to the choir. Who is the intended audience and what's the intended purpose for your blog? Is it intended as a place for dialogue and to persuade the not-yet convinced including maybe even some evangelicals, or is it mainly a venting place for like minded people who are all angry at the same things, with disagreement discouraged? Maybe that's the key question and maybe I misunderstood its intent. I share many of your frustrations and concerns with evangelicalism. But I'm interested in a fair and charitable discussion with balanced context, and if my idea of what that entails isn't welcome I'll keep quiet.

You accused me before of trying to do something I've never intended to do - assigning you to a "side" or wanting to label you so as to dismiss or pigeonhole you. I don't care what side you are on or whether you are on all sides, or none or even if we scrap the idea of sides altogether. I care about fairness and a balanced context when weighing issues - and especially when leveling critiques.

As far as evangelicals forcing people like you out, I think it has to be looked at on a case by case basis re. where the fault lies. Theologically, at a point I think integrity demands one saying "I'm just not [or the body saying "you just aren't"] an evangelical anymore" rather than trying to play word games to say one still is evangelical even though one differs from evangelicals on almost everything. In that case maybe there's no "fault" just a need to go separate ways. In many other cases the (usually local) church is being insecure or power hungry or too narrow, and is silencing dissent wrongfully. In still other cases the dissenter who thinks he's being prophetic is just being an ass and deserves censure for attitude, more than for the content of his theology and his inability to see this ends up with his being on the outside with martyr/prophet complex still intact. Each case has to be taken on its own merits by those who know both sides of it. But yeah, I hear you that on the local level a lot of bad crap is perpetrated against dissenting voices in many evangelical churches.

Like I said earlier, many of the critiques levelled at the evangelical church by emerging folks are being voiced by people as diverse as Scot McKnight, Tim Keller, Rob Bell, Donald Miller, N.T. Wright and Mark Noll and many others. Maybe there's a reason those voices are mmore frequently heard and, if not always agreed with and followed, not forced out in toto.

Thanks for putting up with a dissenting voice.
I Pledge Huh, I knew Republicans were evil, but I had no idea that they were pro-slavery. Interesting. :)

But I'd say that this has more than "slight political overtone[s]." I think it's political enough that it's totally inappropriate to show in a public school. And the stuff about being a "servant to our president" I actually found not just inappropriate, but pretty creepy, particularly when combined with that final shot of everyone speaking in unison and then merging together into a giant picture of the President.

Also, I thought that African-Americans are Americans. I was a little surprised to find that thinking of yourself as black and as American were incompatible.
I agree AH, it was too political to show in a public school, and, like I said, I too was disturbed by the "serving our President" stuff. (And yeah, I didn't quite get the need to stop using "African American".) I wish I could re-do the video and edit that stuff out, because I like the message overall. I can see why parents also might wish the one about not flushing toilets had been left out.

I'm assuming that the African-American remark was actually about hyphenated-Americanism in general. While I'm not a nationalist, I could appreciate the sentiment if we replaced "American" with, say, "human." By constantly segregating ourselves with labels, we forget our similarities and equal needs. Our world would be a much better place if our languages lacked ways to say, for example, "People born on one side of an invisible line shouldn't be allowed to get jobs on the other side of the line," or if we were unable to segregate the war deaths into nationalities.

And yes, the right-wing is pro-slavery. It's a consequence of the vulgar, misshapen thing that they call "libertarianism" (and which has nothing to do with what I'd mean by the word). Basically, in a free market, all contracts would be voluntary, and so slavery couldn't exist. They then extrapolate that since we don't actually have a free market, the same thing must be true in our world. They're pro-slavery, then, since they refuse to admit that slavery exists.

Overall, I agreed with most of it, but the final shot is definitely the creepiest thing I've seen in a while.
"I can see why parents also might wish the one about not flushing toilets had been left out."

Why's that Miko? We've trained our 4-year old daughter not to flush after urinating, and she understands the reason why. I think it's a good habit for kids to get into from a young age. (Especially when you live in places of extreme drought like we do.)

As for slavery, I'm really hoping that this Ruzicka lady was just plain ignorant of the fact that modern day slavery actually exists. Judging from the way she phrased her complaint "They shouldn't be troubling our youth with the woes of the world and making them feel like we're in slavery", it seems like perhaps she just misunderstood what that bit of the video was referring to. After all, a lot of just are still completely ignorant of the fact that there are millions of people still in slavery worldwide.

At least, I hope that's what it was.
Yeah, I think we have the same reactions to each of the individual bits, Mike. It's just that the first 20 seconds and the (particularly Orwellian) last 20 seconds are enough for me to make my overall impression of the video creepy, rather than inspiring. My overal impression might be a little different if I had a little girl who made an adorable pledge while watching it. :) I've never gotten the whole hyphenated-American thing either. Especially when used to identify race. If a Texan of African descent is an African-American, what happens if she becomes a naturalized citizen of Germany? Is she then an African-American-German? Or does she drop the "American" and become an "African-German?" Or what if she becomes a citizen of an African nation? Is she an African-American-African? Or does she get to drop the American again and just become African?

Within reason I'll call people groups whatever they want to be called, but leaving aside arguments about whether such labels do more to divide than to unite, this way of identifying racial identity just never made logical sense to me.
Wow...
Love the sentiment. Cool stuff. I'm all about smiling at people, being a good role model, home canning and using my canvas shopping bag. And if Obi Wan says to flush less...I'll go for that.

SERIOUSLY creeped out by the "I pledge to be a servant to our President" thing. Didn't the President vow to serve the American people? A friend of mine went to DC last week and she said that all over the capitol mall there are Obama stores that have all Obama memorabilia. Not souvenier shops that have pictures of the White House and American Flags and postcards and also stuff with the President...Obama only. And at the Jefferson Memorial, half the gift shop was taken out and replaced with Obama merchandise. Egypt and Syria have their "Presidents" plastered everywhere...(which actually sorta creeped me out when I was there...) but we've always been more about the people than the President. I don't remember there being Clinton stores or Bush stores when I've been to DC before. Obama's definitely sexier...but seriously...shouldn't the Jefferson memorial have historical stuff in it, not propoganda for the guy who's been president for a few months?
cz
Is Democracy Compatible with Christianity? Also, Christianity recognizes all human beings are fallen, so surely there's nobody good enough to be king or queen. Power corrupts us, so best to spread it out as far as we can. Yes, that is another common Christian rationale, typically found among Calvinists (as well as C.S. Lewis). While I agree, I wanted to focus on more positive reasons for democracy. I find an exclusive focus the total depravity argument leads to a purely negative view of government as merely a restraint on human evil, rather than seeing government as one natural expression of the human capacity towards community, cooperation, and love for one's neighbor.

(Which, to reference my previous post, seems to be another one of the chief differences between a conservative, liberal, and progressive view of government. Conservatives see only the former, liberals, only the latter, and progressives, both.)
Why I'm a "Progressive" I tend to agree with progressives 95% in goals, but they have an (unfortunate in my view) tendency to (1) support a long, drawn out struggle of indivudals organized collectively against a gov./bus. alliance trying to conserve powers in the hands of an elite political class, leading to an eventual victory, followed by (2) ceding the power in even greater doses back to the same people who created the original problems. (And then a generation passes, and a new group of progressives fights the same fight against the new power structure that the previous generation of progressives created.) As a (very non-conservative) libertarian, I'd love to see the first step without the second. Well Said! Rick Warren gets caught in a lie Republican Hypocrisy Well, there's always the mute button. Chill out, dude. The GOP is now apologizing for the past 8 years or so and telling us now that this stimulus is not the way to go. Yet the bank bailout was apparently the right thing to do. So money that will go to states and smaller projects that includes a tax cut is somehow 'dirty' while money that goes to CEO's who spend it on massages, jets, and bonuses is somehow clean.

I am fine with the criticism of the stimulus, but the only alternative I heard from Jidal and also from Steele and others is to accept their apology and then do nothing.

If you have not seen Maddow's response, she nails it:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/29379686#29379686
And on the "actions still speak louder than words" front, Jindal's opposition to the stimulus is such that he's turning down 98 million dollars, and accepting 3.7 billion dollars. Now that shows principle!

The scary thing is that after Obama does all of the stuff he's going to do, people aren't going to be in any mood to vote for the Democrats in 2012, and so someone like Jindal might actually end up winning the presidency over his token opposition to the Bush-Obama bailout mess.
That's assuming Obama's plan doesn't work Miko. Mike,
The funny thing about your compaint is that any attempt by Republicans to live up to their principles will be further castigated as hypocricy.
How so John? Living up to their principles doesn't mean only fighting for them when they're not in power. If they can stick by them when they are in power, then I won't call them hypocritical. I may not agree with most of their principles, but I wouldn't call it hypocrisy.

Of course they aren't in power now, so unfortunately for them they won't have a chance for a while to prove that they're not hypocrites, but hey, them's the breaks. If you spend 8 years saying one thing and doing another, you can't be surprised if no one believes you anymore when you say "If you give us our power back we'll promise to be consistent this time."
Mike,
I think you answered your own question, "Of course they aren't in power now, so unfortunately for them they won't have a chance for a while to prove that they're not hypocrites". The Republican Party is not monolithic; it only takes a few moderate Republicans (like Bush) to reach across party lines in a "bipartison" way to pass legislation that expands government and increases spending like "no child left behind". While I in general am for smaller government and fiscal responsibility, those values can be trumped by others like national security. And in regard to kicking out dissenters, like Arlan Spector, to purify the GOP, some would so they couldn't be labeled "hypocrites" but many Republicans wan't to keep them to block legislation like FOCA. Does that make Republicans hypocrytes, and any Democratic spending beyond critisism, I don't think so. You are welcome to, but I think it is overly simplistic. While you cannot be convinced, it remains to be seen if others, who actually want fiscal responsibility and small government, can.
By the way, I have changed my mind from my original comment. Republican Governors have the opportunity to show fiscal responsibility and small government. Indeed they can John. We'll see how they do. Personally I hope they can manage the fiscal responsibility part (I'm all for balanced budgets). As for "small government", personally I don't think the size is relevant. Large or small, I just want a government that works. Hillary Challenges Human Trafficking There's never been an instance in history when criminalizing something lowered demand for it. Indeed, it usually just makes things worse: anti-abortion laws have given us back-alley abortions, anti-gun laws in Britain have led to an explosion in knife-related violence, anti-condom laws have given Africa an AIDS epidemic, the drug war has led to the creation of more potent and dangerous designer drugs (because they can be brewed at home instead of imported), etc.

On the other hand, in a state like Nevada with legalized prostitution, we see (some) appropriate safety measures taken and no need to resort to trafficking to continue the trade. (Although of course the Nevada model is far from perfect: regulations are written in ways which tend to benefit the brothel owners and work to protect only the health of clients rather than also protecting employees.)

What we need to do is decriminalize both the supply and the demand: legislating morality has never and will never succeed; indeed, it almost always leads to even worse "back-alley" behaviors.

And I agree completely with your view on immigration: I don't object to a quick check point to keep out terrorists and epidemics, but open borders and open immigration are the way to go.
Obameter I consider myself a liberal and don't care for quite a few of the promises either. :-)

Although interestingly enough, I'm in favor of 4 out of 5 of the fulfilled ones (I don't see the need for him to appoint a Republican; their party is intellectually bankrupt and needs to be put out of its misery so that a superior third party can take its place).

However, I think some of the conditions in various promises are contradictory and some are vague and open to interpretation by the site. It'll necessarily become a partisan rant for one side or the other (or both) depending on how they choose to classify his actions.

Where's Gitmo in the list, by the way? He said he'd "close" it on the first day and came through on that as well.

Anyway, I tend to care more about results than actions. Directing the military to leave Iraq on the first day is great, but it dims somewhat if we're still there two years from now.
The Gitmo closing is on the "in the works" page, I guess since it's not actually closed yet.

And I thought you were a libertarian Miko? That's rather different than being a liberal, isn't it?
I previously linked Amy Moffit's post-inaugural blog post on Julies blog. I agree with Amy's sentiments when she says:

"...I believe him capable of the office. But he can't do what he's saying he's going to do. Even as he tamps down people's expectations in his speeches, he's still having to balance it with promises he can't keep..."

It will be interesting to track that site - Obama could fail to deliver on a lot of those promises and still be a very effective leader.

http://moffou.blogspot.com/2009/01/inauguration-day-2009.html
I Have Hope The intelligence was the deciding factor in my vote for him, but let's not forget that Nixon is said to have been the smartest president in a long time. ;-)

Symbolism aside, rumor is he's going to close Gitmo tomorrow. I haven't heard details, but other than making it a trifecta by getting rid of the Patriot Act and immediately beginning troop withdrawals from Iraq (to the U.S., not Afghanistan), I can't imagine a better start to his administration.

As a libertarian, I seem to have more fear than hope right now, despite the good start (and the obvious fact that things couldn't possibly get worse). But, since I tend to disagree with the left more on the methods than on the desired results, I'll join you in hoping for the best and hope that you'll join me in keeping one eye open.

After everything leading up to it, this is definitely a monumental occasion, so I'll congratulate you for your part in bringing us here (whatever that may have been). Here's to the next four being better than the last!
Great post, honest and reflective. I too was attracted to Obama because of the way he ran his campaign and the diversity of his story and character as well as the intellect he displays. I cannot wait to see what he does the next couple of years.. and I share in your hopefulness and enthusiasm! Blessings Nice list of reasons to have hope, Mike. I didn't vote for him but I too am hopeful Mike, for many of the same reasons you are. I wish him well. Excellent points. I agree with all of them, and (on perhaps a personal level) I appreciate the value of being part of more than one culture for understanding different perspectives. Son of Kenyan and a white American, African-American in complexion (and therefore in the eyes of society as well)

It's certainly a helpful reminder that so many people point out that Obama is of mixed race, as opposed to being simply what people assume him to be on the basis of his complexion. On the other hand, it occurs to me that, irrespective of the fact that Obama seems to self-identify as "African-American", "African-American" is a label that truly identifies Obama. His father is African, and his mother is American. Therefore, he is African-American, even before we consider his complexion.
Amen brother. Especially this part: "I also know that if Obama is going to fulfill any of these hopes it will have to be because we help him." I love what he's calling America to do and to be. I believe that if we reach up past the smallness of what politics has been, to what Love can mean, and the balance between rights and responsibilities, it's going to be a different and better world.
Great analysis.
Richard Cizik got resigned I would like to read that 35 page research paper. It sounds interesting. I might post it, but I'm still trying to decide whether it's worth trying to get it published first. Blago's been arrested I feel like the governor can only hurt him or not affect him at all. If he had any contact with the governor, even if it was to stand up to him, he is going to take a lot of flack for it.

What I'm hearing around the web and the news is that the general opinion is that Obama probably has dirt in his past (who doesn't in politics?) and this is going to encourage reporters to search for it.

I really hope they don't find it. We need Obama's image to stay good for the morale of America.
My wife, who voted for Obama, had the same reaction as Danny.

(1) she thinks the best Obama can get out of this situation is for it to be neutral (maybe he's the new teflon president).
(2) she fears it may somehow bring discredit to him, unfairly.
(3) she believes this is further evidence of how corrupt politics is generally, and Illinois politics is specifically and therefore fears that Obama, as an Illinois politician, probably has dirt in his past that may eventually be uncovered as a result of this or other relentless journalistic digging. Like Danny, she doesn't want to see that happen.

I, who have more reservations about Obama as president than she, hadn't had any of those thoughts - I just assumed he was clear of this and that he'd kept his nose clean along the way so had nothing to fear from further journalistic digging.
Having lived in Illinois for the past 12 years, I've been following Obama a lot longer than others in the rest of the country, and my impression is that he is a lot cleaner than the average Illinois politician. Besides which, after these past two long years of the campaign, if they haven't found any serious dirt on Obama's past, I highly doubt there is any to be found. Do you really think there could be stuff still out there that both the Clinton and Republican machines, plus the whole massive cable news monstrosity have failed to find? Generational Theory and Political Trends Further confusing things is that pre-1900 limited government has always been a liberal ideal in the Locke-Smith-Paine-Jefferson tradition. Small government conservatism was mainly a reaction against the chaotic economic mismanagement of FDR. With the neocons in control of the Republican Party these days, modern conservatism seems to stand more for using government to ban marriage between "undesirables," transfer wealth to the rich and corporate interests, and go to war against any country with oil, none of which are small-government ideals (although they do correspond well with historical conservatism's focus on forcing a vision of "traditional society" on everyone else).

While I can see the general outlines of the trends you mention, I'm in general skeptical of any claims to so define all of human behavior. For example, exit polls from the last election showed that 65% preferred small government to large government, a much larger majority than Obama over McCain. With the Obama-McCain race, this was essentially a nonissue since both candidates wanted to drastically increase the scope of the federal government, but if the Republicans were to run an actual small-government candidate (i.e., not trying to regulate abortion, start/continue wars, etc.) we might see a very different story in 2012. On the other hand, if they run Palin as some are threatening, I imagine that the Republican Party will just shrivel away.

As a laissez-faire liberal, I personally voted for Obama. Rather than being about my views and values, the election for me came down to a competent-yet-inexperienced candidate vs. a flat-out-incompetent candidate. The McCain-Palin ticket is the worst I've ever seen: the fact that it somehow still managed to get close to half the popular vote suggests to me that the future is less certain than some may think.
A related issue is Obama’s membership in Generation Jones (between the Boomers and Generation X). I’ve seen quite a few very credible experts emphatically insist that Obama is part of GenJones; if Obama’s generational identity is of interest to you, you should definitely click this link…it goes to a page filled with lots of articles and video of famous people arguing that Obama is a GenJoneser: http://www.generationjones.com/2008election.html i'm not entirely certain i completely agree with this analysis. you're basically equating conservatism with being anti-civics, which couldn't be more backwards. abhorring the excesses of a bloated, technocratic and inefficient central government is hardly anti-establishment. its simply a desire to not see effort or resources wasted on lost causes. you're also basically asserting that without government, "positive solutions to the problems our world is facing" are not possible. conservatives offer a great many solutions to the problems that we face. you just happen to disagree with them (incidentally, i do too, by and large). they just happen to not be government-based solutions. many, many well meaning, civics minded, justice minded, peace minded people refuse to accept the notion that we ought to be putting our faith in the federal government to solve our problems. but there is neither a one to one between those people and your Civics, nor a one to one between those people and either liberals or conservatives. there's some massive over-simplification going on here. conservatives do not vilify government as the source of our problems, they simply refute the idea that government is the solution. there's a massive difference between those two ideas. i also think you're being extremely naive to think that it will simply require the death of the boomers to see the death of conservatism in this country. as Gen X'ers and Gen Y'ers get older and settle down and suddenly have something to lose, they're going to turn more conservative, just as their parents, the boomers did (and, incidentally, just like the previous generation did, as well. Greatest Generation types weren't always conservatives. the 20's, 30's and 40's are hardly sedate eras).

i think a useful motto would be "yes, we could". neither the assumption that we "can" as if it is a forgone conclusion, which the Gen Y's seem to have swallowed hook, line and sinker; nor "the system is useless" as Gen X would have it. "yes, we could" implies hope and possibility, but also demands effort, stamina, and hard work. my big concern right now is that all the Gen Y Obamaniacs think their job is done. they got The Man into office, and now he's going to carry the ball across the goal line and bring about "change" (whatever that's supposed to be).
i think you'd be better served not to write off conservatism as simply old fashioned or disinterested or heartless. there is a lot to be said for frugality, caution, tradition, and a refusal to put all our trust in a system you freely admit doesn't have all the answers.
and me? I was barely a boomer - on the line of gen X. That might explain some things..... ;) I guess they're calling you guys "Generation Jones" now, Karen. jhimm-

Of course I was dealing in generalizations and oversimplifications here. My intent was not to give a full description of conservativism. I'm simply pointing to some very broad tendencies, and noting that the Reagan era message of limited government was a natural fit for many Baby Boomer's anti-establishment tendencies.

As for whether conservatives are actually anti-government, I think it's safe to say that some definitely are. I know I was of that opinion for quite a while back when I was a libertarian leaning, Rush Limbaugh ditto-head. (BTW, "ditto-head" is not a slam. That is what they call themselves.) And it's not too hard to find plenty of Sarah Palin or even McCain quotes claiming that government is "the problem", either. Certainly there are more moderate conservatives that simply think that government isn't part of the solution. Nonetheless, I do think there are plenty of conservatives who would identify it as a large part of the problem.

(Just personally speaking, I see government as both part of the problem and part of the solution. I don't merely want less government. I want better government.)

And yes, I agree that "Yes we could" is a good motto.
"unrequited cravings and unfulfilled expectations."

yeah.
Mike C.,

Thanks! You hit on something interesting when you mentioned how Reagan-era politics sparked an anti-establishment tendency in boomers. What I'm realizing is that the way the issues are arranged within a narrative is much more important than any individual issue.

The political view that maintains control is the party that crafts the best narrative of "us against them". Republicans have done a good job for 30 years painting government as "them". Joe the plumber was a great example. It will be interesting to see if Obama can flip the tables and get America to have faith in itself again. "Yes we can" was a perfect argument. Let's see if it holds up for 4 years. Here are more thoughts I've had on the topic...

http://www.faithprogression.com/2008/11/road-to-change.html
I like the books: http://www.amazon.com/13th-Gen-Abort-Retry-Ignore/dp/0679743650

and:
http://www.amazon.com/Generations-History-Americas-Future-1584/dp/0688119123/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227296580&sr=1-1

I think describe these phenomena very well. I am also a tad skeptical about extrapolating behavior to a whole age range, but I do think that history impacts the individual in ways that we who are living it don't always understand. I've found these two books very helpful in coping with the history that's been happening around me. Especially right now.
I'm with ya' Sally. There's lots of reasons to be skeptical of generational theory; not least of which is the fact that it's most often a tool of the marketing industry that tries to pigeon-hole people into generational niches so that they can sell more stuff to them.

On the other hand, when I read the historical and generational descriptions in books like Strauss and Howe's it does ring true to me in a broad sense. As a description of broad trends, I think their generational types are a helpful schema, though I'd resist any attempts to make them normative descriptions of any given person of a certain age.
what concerns me is this is becoming a popular sentiment in the post 2008 election season. that basically, progressivism is inevitable, and that change for the better is on the way, we just have to wait for a bunch of old farts who can't get with the program to die off.

this is incredibly short sighted. the current batch of old farts who are the core of conservatism (not libertarianism, but GOP style conservatism) were not this way all their lives. in their youth they were the radical, activist, unionizing progressives. they were the New Deal for pete's sake. and as you said, the 1960's radicals became the 1980's Regan era conservatives. as people age, they get stuck in their ways. they prefer the past to the future. they begin to fear the next generation's ideas.

your two notions here are completely at odds. if political position is generational, and cyclical, one generation reacting to the next, then progress cannot be inevitable, and conservatism is not "in trouble". it's just their turn to be on the down swing, but in 10 to 20 years they will be ascendant again.

i think mostly i bristled at the co-mingling of libertarians with conservatives. at this point the Libertarian Party and the GOP have about as much in common as an apple and a buick. the GOP loves to claim "small government" and "government is the problem" but the GOP are the party that in the past eight years not only passed the USAPATRIOT Act and radically expanded executive authority, they are also the party that created the single largest, most expensive public benefits program in our history - the Medic-aid drug benefits program.

the GOP is only small/anti government when they can use it as a smoke-screen for bigotry, hate and discrimination under a thin veil of "tradition" and "caution regarding change". most of the time they love big government. genuine small government types (such as myself) tend to find the GOP far more offensive than progressives, who are at least -honest- about their belief that government is the solution. we may disagree, but at least it is an out in the open disagreement. debating the GOP on the role of government is like debating a Hari Krishna about faith. if they think they have a chance of winning you over, they will say anything you want to hear.
jhimm, I think you're sort of misunderstanding my point. (I apologize for not communicating more clearly.) I wasn't claiming that "political positions are generational", as if one generation will be conservative and the next liberal, etc. Quite the opposite in fact. The point of my post was that the anti-establishment generational zeitgeist of the Baby Boomers has had both liberal and conservative manifestations. Generational trends can be manifest in many different ways, and no one political persuasion can claim the allegiance of any particular generation.

That's also why I didn't mean to imply that progressivism is inevitable with this next generation. I don't recall saying anything like that actually. What I said was that conservatives need to find some new ideas (or new ways of expressing their ideas) that will resonate more with a younger generation that wants to improve the system, not just scrap it. If they can do that, then they may win a larger share of the Millennial vote next time around. If not, then, as you said, they may have to wait a few decades for the generational cycle to turn again.

BTW, I'm not sure I agree with your assertion that the same young people who were radicals in the 1960's actually became the Reagan-era conservatives of the 1980's. Perhaps that happened in a few cases, but I tend to think that we're actually talking about two different segments of the Baby Boom generation, both of which share a common suspicion of "the system", but who manifested that tendency in different ways. I don't have the statistics in front of me, but I seem to remember reading about studies that have shown that people's political identities rarely change as they get older. How you vote in your twenties is usually how you'll vote in your forties as well.

As for Libertarians vs. GOP, I agree, most Republicans these days are not true conservatives. But, as you noted, they still talk as if they are, and are happy to invoke that rhetoric repeatedly when it suits their purposes (the McCain/Palin campaign is Exhibit A here). What I think generational theory suggests is that even this rhetoric of limited government, which has worked so well with anti-establishment Boomers and cynical Gen Xers for the past three decades (even when it was just rhetoric and not actual policy), is not going to continue working very well with the Millenial Generation and their differing sensibilities about the value of "the system".
Still Speechless... Shane says it's okay to vote! i just wrote a probably horribly over-wrought entry about purity and the pitfalls surrounding it. it probably isn't perfectly defended as i'm still thinking about it, but its out there.

voting is definitely a tricky topic!
But that's socialism... right? Another interesting point is that the biggest "redistribution of wealth" program we have in America is the Earned Income Tax Credit. It takes money from normal Americans and "spreads" it around to less fortunate Americans.

Who enacted that program? Ronald Reagan.

What a marxist!

:)
intellectually honest fiscal conservatives would be vehemently opposed to the massive bail-outs which have occurred recently for our ailing banking and investment industries. in fact, many prominent conservative pundits -did- label those bail-outs as "socialism".

i agree that if we can/should/must give tax money to IGN or WaMu, we can/should/must give it to the indigent.

i'm not 100% convinced we can/should/must give it to either, but i would say it has to be both, or neither. either government's role is to redistribute wealth, or it isn't. personally, i think it isn't. but our current system of inequity makes no sense, and the inherent bias towards protecting the wealthy is clearly a disaster.
What do you think of Alter's larger point, which is that anytime the government does anything for the common good with tax-payer money, that is a redistribution of wealth? It seems to me that conservatives saying they're against "redistributing wealth" is disingenuous since they're clearly not totally against it (they're still for building roads and schools and tanks, etc.) They just differ about who and what it should be redistributed to. Several years ago I read a good article by Ron Sider making the same point. Both Ronald Reagan and (name any democrat) believe in some level of government interference with the economy, and some level of taxation and use of those tax dollars for the common good.

As Mike points out the real questions are things like "how much" and "for what purposes" and "to whom" rather than whether there should be any interference/redistribution at all.

A common conservative answer is that education, construction of infrastructure and maintaining a national defense are all valid functions of government and that taxation and redistribution for those things is legitimate and necessary. Whereas they might disagree with redistribution for other social programs either in toto, or on a case-by-case basis.
Unflappable Obama Our Bad Economic Habits Chicago Tribune Endorses Obama Let us remember that Jesus was very against rich people (like somebody who might have 11 homes and 7 cars) as he was very against the rich and corrupt Jewish priests of the first century.

Recent Reads

  • The Uses of Haiti
    by Paul Farmer




  • Putting Away Childish Things
    by Marcus Borg



  • An Unbroken Agony: Haiti, from Revolution to the Kidnapping of a President by Randall Robinson

  • Haiti in Focus: A Guide to the People, Politics, and Culture by Charles Arthur

  • Mind & Emergence: From Quantum to Consciousness
    by Philip Clayton

  • Namaah's Curse by Jacqueline Carey



  • Watchmen by Alan Moore & Dave Gibbons




Friend's Sites
  • onehandclapping
    -Julie Clawson

  • fluctuating certainty
    -Karen Gerber

  • Danno's Dangerous Mind
    -Dan Horwedel

  • T(r)oy Marbles
    -Troy Cady

  • Anglobaptist
    -Tripp Hudgins

  • The Thinkulum
    -Andy Culbertson

  • A Little Off Key
    -Amy Toornstra

  • unconventionalwisdom
    -Jen Pare

  • (Not So) Straight from Seminary
    -Brandy Daniels

  • MattTheTroll
    -Matt Cavanaugh

  • Love is the most excellent way
    -Helen Mildenhall

  • Disonanz Cognitif
    -Derek Berner

  • Wild Rumpus
    -Rebecca Murphy

  • This Just In...
    -Inouye Family

  • Discovering Pathways
    -Laurel Dixon

  • Postmodern Questions
    -Thomas Just

  • Clawson Family Blog



Classic Pensees
  • - What is the Emerging Church?
  • - The Converging Church
  • - How to Read the Bible
  • - Did the Exodus Really Happen?
  • - Hell Q&A
  • - Three Approaches to Scripture
  • - Does Forgiveness Require Repentance?
  • - Emma at the Petting Zoo
  • - Biblical Support for Women in Ministry
  • - What is Sin?
  • - What Good is the Bible?
  • - The God of Thin Places
  • - Immigration: Real Solutions
  • - What is Postmodernism?
  • - V for Vendetta
  • - What is Justice?
  • - Roots
  • - If It's Good Enough for Kids...
  • - Aslan Is Not Jesus
  • - Community Transformation
  • - Theology is Like Designing a House
  • - When I Am Weak...
  • - Why I'm Not Patriotic
  • - What is Truth?
  • - What this "postmodern" journey is all about...
  • - The Relational Nature of Sin
  • - Caught In-Between
  • - Three Routes of Escape
  • - What If God Really Existed?
  • - A Tale of Two Churches
  • - Cautions for Emergents, Part 1
  • - Cautions for Emergents, Part 2
  • - We Were There First
  • - Take NAFTA for instance...
  • - Let Them Come
  • - A New Perspective on Jesus
  • - Was Jesus Political?
  • - Contextualization or Isolation: Then and Now
  • - A Tale of Two Movements
  • - Abortion: Talking Past Each Other
  • - Epistemology or Ethics
  • - Why Faith?
  • - A Failure of Compassion
  • - Parables Aren't Always About God
  • - Do You Have a Soul?
  • - Is it all just trivial?
  • - What about the Disturbing Parts of the Bible?
  • - Into the Woods
  • - American Exceptionalism or Imperialism?
  • - Why Believe In God?
  • - Owning "Emergent"

Previous entries
  • Are Emergents Merely Liberal?
  • Liberalism, Evangelicalism and Emergence
  • The Wild Goose as a Sign of Hope
  • Blog Hiatus... Obviously
  • Review of Marcus Borg's "Putting Away Childish Thi...
  • Favorite Austin Eats
  • Busy Summer
  • Escobar on New Men and Social Change
  • Walker Cleaveland's "Brief History of Presbymergent"
  • More Conferences


Friend of Emergent Village

Join the Emergent/C Mailing List
Email:












The Gross National Debt



Locations of visitors to this page

Recommended

Julie's Book!
Events


Big Tent Christianity
Raleigh, NC
Sept 8-9


Emergent Village Theological Conversation
Atlanta, GA
Nov 1-3

Sites
  • - Emerging Women
  • - Emerging Parents
  • - Emergent Village
  • - The Ooze
  • - Next-Wave Ezine
  • - NT Wright Page
  • - Disassemblance
  • - Dylan's Lectionary Blog
  • - Mustard Seed Associates
  • - Everything Must Change
  • - Via Christus Comm. Church
  • - up/rooted
  • - Wedding Pastors USA
  • - Shieldmaiden Designs
  • - Fifty Percenters

Blogs
  • God's Politics
  • Jesus Creed
  • Friendly Atheist
  • Reclaiming the Mission
  • Emerging CGGC
  • Out of Ur
  • Theolog
  • tallskinnykiwi
  • John Armstrong
  • Paradoxology
  • Bob.Blog
  • Kingdom Grace
  • Frenetic Peace
  • Decompressing Faith
  • iamjoshbrown
  • the carnival in my head
  • Tony Jones
  • Empire Remixed
  • brianmclaren.net
  • Revolution in Jesusland
  • With/out God

Political Stuff
  • - Sojourners
  • - New Evangelical Partnership for the Common Good
  • - Progressive Christian Alliance
  • - Green Party
  • - Global Exchange
  • - The One Campaign to Make Poverty History

Books
  • A New Kind of Christianity by Brian McLaren


  • The Secret Message of Jesus by Brian McLaren



  • Velvet Elvis by Rob Bell



  • The Challenge of Jesus by N.T. Wright



  • The Gospel in a Pluralist Society by Lesslie Newbigin



  • A Generous Orthodoxy by Brian McLaren



  • Church Re-Imagined by Doug Pagitt



  • Traveling Mercies by Anne Lamott



  • Till We Have Faces by C.S. Lewis



  • Fear & Trembling by Soren Kierkegaard



  • Messy Spirituality by Mike Yaconelli



  • God's Politics by Jim Wallis



Articles
  • - What is the Emerging Church?
  • - Recommended Reading for the Emerging Church
  • - Emerging Church Resources
  • - Obama on Faith & Politics
  • - Mars Hill's Directions
  • - Profoundly Disturbed on the 4th of July
  • - 10 Key Values of the Green Party
  • - NT Wright on Penal Substitution
  • - Walter Wink on The Myth of Redemptive Violence
  • - Mark Twain's War Prayer
  • - Rebuttals to Richard Dawkins
  • - Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican

Music

  • U2 - How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb



  • Green Day - American Idiot



  • David Wilcox - Into the Mystery



  • Caedmon's Call - Share the Well



  • Passion: Hymns Ancient and Modern



  • Jake Armerding




  • Tourniquet - Vanishing Lessons


Viewing

  • The Lord of the Rings



  • Star Wars Trilogy



  • Fight Club



  • Garden State



  • Saved!



  • Joan of Arcadia




  • Magnolia



  • Donnie Darko



  • High Fidelity



  • The Mission



  • Futurama



  • The Simpsons


Emerging Churches
  • Mosaic - Los Angeles, CA

  • Vintage Faith Church - Santa Cruz, CA

  • Church of Jesus Christ, Reconciler - Chicago, IL

  • Wicker Park Grace - Chicago, IL

  • The Emmaus Community - Chicago Heights, IL

  • Fusion Church - Lake Zurich, IL

  • Life on the Vine - Long Grove, IL

  • Mars Hill - Grandville, MI

  • Waters Edge - Hudsonville, MI

  • Threads Church - Kalamazoo, MI

  • Solomon's Porch - Minneapolis, MN

  • Oasis Madrid - Madrid, Spain

  • Mosaic - Austin, TX

  • Vineyard Community Church - Shoreline, WA

Friday, January 29, 2010
Jon Stewart on the SOTU
The Daily Show With Jon StewartMon - Thurs 11p / 10c
Speech Therapy
www.thedailyshow.com
Daily Show
Full Episodes
Political HumorHealth Care Crisis


I loved Jon Stewart's summary of the SOTU. Maybe it was insulting or a bit of a downer for the President to focus so much on the negatives, but personally I'm glad the he used the opportunity to give a big F-U to everyone who has stood in the way of actually substantially addressing the problems we face as a nation (including both Republicans and Democrats, the media, big business, and even himself), because frankly that's how a lot of us are feeling about it all too. The issues are too serious to keep up all this partisan/media crap. Enough with tea parties and false accusations and empty rhetoric and obstructionism - we've got problems to solve. Let's get on with it.

We got spanked the other night, and we needed it.

Labels: Obama, politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 10:07 AM | Permalink | 3 comments
Sunday, November 08, 2009
What I Like About the New Health Care Bill
Of course no piece of legislation is perfect, and quite frankly I personally wanted something far more radical and yes, "socialistic", than this current bill (which, despite what you'll hear from the Right, bears almost no resemblance to anything that could justifiably be labeled "socialism"). Nonetheless, I am very excited that the House finally passed an honest to goodness health care reform bill that seems to actually have some decent features that will directly make life better for me and my family. I haven't looked closely at every aspect of this bill yet, so I can't speak to all of its shortcomings (of which it's sure to have many), but here are a few of the things I like about it:

1) A public option, which, besides creating real competition that will force insurance companies to actually serve their clients better, will also give folks to chance to opt-out of the crappy private system if they want to, and stop sending 30% or more of our premiums to line the pockets of insurance company shareholders.

2) Creates a health insurance exchange that will enable individuals like me who don't get insurance through an employer to get the same benefits that group buyers do.

3) Caps out-of-pocket expenses, which for me and my family can currently be more than $20,000 annually.

4) Prevents insurance companies from denying coverage for pre-existing conditions, which is the major reason Julie and I currently have absolutely no choice in which health insurance we use and therefore no recourse whenever Humana decides to screw us over. If other insurers would cover us, we could shop around for a better plan and actually let the market work the way it's supposed to.

5) Subsidies to help poor Americans get coverage - another measure that might benefit my family directly, since, as a graduate student, I currently have very little actual income. I also think that, whatever other nice features the bill offers, the most important thing is making sure that the millions of people who can't currently afford health care are in fact covered. No one should have whether they live or die or can live healthily be determined by how much money they (or their parents) make.

6) An amendment to keep federal funds from covering abortions (though individuals still have the right to pay for their own abortion coverage). While I know most liberals won't like this one, I for one am glad that this issue will be taken off the table and therefore cannot be used as a red-herring by the Right to block the entire bill. I also think its fair that those of us who disagree with the practice of abortion shouldn't have to have our tax dollars used to pay for them.

Anyhow, here's to hoping these features survive in the Senate's version of it. It's exciting to think that something might actually happen with all of this. That substantial change for the better is in fact possible.

Labels: politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 10:00 PM | Permalink | 4 comments
Friday, September 18, 2009
Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right
I'm likely overgeneralizing here, but why does it seem like whenever I point out what I see as the bad behavior of conservatives (whether theological or political) one of the first responses I get is usually "Well, your side does it too!" I can't recall how many times I've said something here about the close-mindedness of evangelicals for instance (which after all, is my own tribe), only to have someone respond, "Yeah, well, mainline liberals aren't any better." Or the number of times I've posted something about the dirty politics of the Republicans on Facebook, only to have someone reply, "Well, the Democrats do the same thing."

There are a number of things that bother me about this response:

1) It doesn't actually deal with the issue at hand. It's an evasion tactic that shifts the focus of debate from whether or not said behavior is actually acceptable, to "who started it". As such, it seems like basically a way of avoiding responsibility for one's own actions. So what if the other side does it? Does that thereby excuse your side from doing it too? Do two wrongs make a right? It's especially ironic when conservatives do this. I mean, aren't they supposed to be all about "personal responsibility", not just passing the buck?

2) The "your side does it too" response falsely assumes that I am actually on the "other side". This is not a safe assumption, whether theologically or politically. For instance, while I may be "post-evangelical", evangelicalism is still my heritage and the tribe I most easily identify with, so when I point the finger at the short-comings of evangelicals, it's not pointed at "them" so much as "us". And to be sure, I'm definitely not standing on the side of the mainline "liberals" either. Just because I've moved somewhat beyond evangelicalism doesn't mean I've therefore become a mainliner. That has become abundantly clear to me the more time I spend at my mainline Presbyterian seminary. I respect, love, and am intrigued by my mainline brothers and sisters here, but in many ways I still feel like an outsider looking in. So when folks tell me that "the mainliners do it too", my first thought is "Great, so what? I'm not a mainliner so what does that have to do with me?"

Likewise with politics, just because I no longer identify with the Republicans (though at one point in my life I was, literally, a card-carrying member) doesn't mean I therefore am a Democrat. I'm just as happy to criticize their antics as well (as I did, for instance, just the other day when I posted a Facebook complaint about how the Dems need to just let this Joe Wilson thing just drop.) Thus, when folks respond "The Dems do it too!" again my response is "Yeah? So what? They suck too. But shouldn't you be worried about your own side?"

Of course, I'm sure some might wonder why, if I don't consider myself either conservative or liberal in either of these spheres, why my critiques are usually directed primarily at the conservative side (which, I'll freely admit, they typically are). The answer is because, as I said above, the conservative side of things is where I come from and what I know. I can critique evangelicals because in some ways I still am one. And I can criticize Republicans because not too long ago I was one. However, not having ever been a mainliner, nor a devoted Democrat, I have a harder time pointing out their faults simply because I'm not as familiar with them. Indeed, it feels somewhat unfair and inappropriate for me to criticize them without fully understanding them. It's the whole "nobody better criticize my momma except me" thing. When you're part of (or have been part of) the family, you have a right to point out its faults. But when you're an outsider (and always have been), one has an obligation to understand before critiquing. (Which is one of the reasons I'm here at a mainline Seminary - in order to understand what makes mainliners tick so that I can better understand the critiques of my mainline Emergent friends.)

Anyhow, I'm sure I'll get flamed for this post, though of course it would be extremely ironic if the response to it was "well, liberals use this same evasion tactic too!" So let me be the first to say it, yes of course they do it too, and more than that, I'm sure I've done it too at times - I'm certainly not perfect. So why don't we all commit to dealing with the actual issues from now on, and not try to avoid seeing them in our own side (whichever side that is) by only ever pointing them out in the other. Let's all agree that "well, your side does it too", is never a valid counter-argument, especially when you haven't yet dealt with the fact that your own side is also doing it.

Labels: politics, theology

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 5:27 PM | Permalink | 16 comments
Friday, September 04, 2009
I Pledge
I found this video to be rather inspiring:



Basically the video is about being the change we want to see in the world by pledging to do simple, practical things to make the world a better place - things like helping at a food pantry, smiling more, giving to Unicef, buying a hybrid, or conserving water. This is what I found to be inspiring - it's an important reminder that each of us can do something to help others, no matter how big or small.

The video also has a slight political overtone as well, since it begins with a quote from President Obama, and has a couple of pledges about "being of service to Barack Obama". It was these aspects of the message that led parents in the Salt Lake City area to protest it being shown at an elementary school assembly (the article about this is how I encountered the video in the first place). Personally, I agree that it probably shouldn't have been shown in a public school context. And I have to admit that I too was a little uncomfortable with the pledges to be of service to Obama. While I generally like our President and (mostly, though not entirely) agree with his agenda, I'm not simply going to blindly follow wherever he leads without question. Besides which, I also agree with the critic in the article who pointed out that Obama is here to serve we the people, not vice versa. If they had pledged (as JFK exhorted us) to be of service to our country, that would be less problematic. But of service just to one man? I'm not down with that.

However, that's not all the protesting parents took issue with. They also went on to decry some of the other pledges as "leftist propaganda". For instance, as the article notes:

Gayle Ruzicka, president of conservative Utah Eagle Forum, said the video was blatantly political. She said other offensive pledges [besides ones not to give the finger while driving, and to replace one's obnoxious care with a hybrid] included... pledges to not use plastic grocery bags and not flush the toilet after urinating.

"It's very inappropriate to show a radical, leftist propaganda piece that political to children," Ruzicka said. "If parents want their children to learn about those things and do them in the home, wonderful, fine, but it's not the place of the school to show a one-sided propaganda piece to children without parents knowing about it."

Cieslewicz said such values should be decided in the home, not at school.

"They shouldn't be troubling our youth with the woes of the world and making them feel like we're in slavery or they have to worry about how many times they flush the toilet or if they have a plastic water bottle," Cieslewicz said, referring to pledges in the video to "end slavery."

These complaints I have much less sympathy for. Issues like energy and water conservation, and especially something like ending modern day slavery should not be seen as partisan political causes. These are things that should concern any responsible citizen and moral human being. Is it "leftist propaganda" to say that we should take care of God's creation? Is it "leftist propaganda" to declare that slavery is a moral evil and should be eradicated? Are these people so deeply entrenched in the culture wars that they can't bring themselves to support any cause that they perceive to be in any way associated with "the left", no matter how self-evidently righteous it is? Is it really more important for your side to "win", than for you to help millions of slaves go free?

At any rate, check this video out. It has a great message, even if it takes a couple of missteps. On a personal note, Emma was looking over my shoulder as I was posting it to my Facebook profile, and she insisted on watching it. Afterwards (and after I explained to her what a "pledge" was), she decided that she wanted her pledge for making the world a better place to be that she would say "I love you more". That, to me, was even more inspiring than the video. :)

Labels: Obama, politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 10:06 PM | Permalink | 7 comments
Thursday, July 30, 2009
Is Democracy Compatible with Christianity?
I've been reading Mark Noll's The Old Religion in a New World recently, and he cites the following quotation by a 19th century American Catholic, Orestes Brownson, which I found interesting:
"Catholicity is theoretically compatible with democracy..., but practically, there is, in my judgment, no compatibility between them. According to Catholicity all power comes from above and descends from high to low; according to democracy all power is infernal, is from below, and ascends from low to high."
I can certainly see how this issue would be a problem for Catholic Christians, most of whom would agree with Brownson's assertion that power descends from high to low, even if they don't necessarily make the connection that this thereby validates a hierarchical political order (from God to Pope to King to the People) as much as a hierarchical spiritual one. However, I think there are probably many other Christians besides just Catholics that would likewise agree with the basic premise that power and authority descends from high to low, from God to human authorities, and thus might recognize a conflict between their faith and the basic premise of democracy. On the surface it seems a persuasive argument. After all, most Christians, I think, would affirm that all power ultimately comes from God.

However, it occurs to me that affirming God as the source of power and authority does not necessarily imply anything about its direction, whether ascending or descending. Indeed, if what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 1 about God choosing the lowly, the foolish, and the weak things of this world, and what he says in Philippians 2 about Christ giving up his power and condescending to the weakness of humanity is true, then one could argue that God-given power does not filter down from high to low among human beings, but rather that it begins with the lowest, the least, and the common. In that sense, God's power is very compatible with the essence of democracy: the idea that legitimate power derives from the will of the governed - those on the bottom of the social pyramid - not from the will-to-power of those on top. God empowers the weak, not the strong - those on the bottom, not on top. Power, in God's kingdom, descends all the way down, so that only then can it begin to filter back up.

Not being Catholic, I can't say whether this conception of power is compatible with "Catholicity", though I would think that it would have much in common with the kenotic theology of Saint Francis for instance. However, I do think it is a legitimate and profoundly Christian conception.

Labels: politics, theology

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 6:39 PM | Permalink | 2 comments
Tuesday, July 14, 2009
Why I'm a "Progressive"

I've gotten into a number of debates on Facebook recently, usually revolving around either healthcare reform, Obama's economic recovery policies, or some combination of the two. (BTW, Facebook debates are exceedingly annoying since they tend to take place in the comments of someone's status update, are limited in the number of characters you can type, and have no text editing capabilities... but I digress.) Anyhow, I don't intend to rehash the finer points of either of these issues here, but I did want to comment on an insight I had in the course of these debates - I think I finally figured out what being a "progressive" means to me.

(As a caveat - I should clarify that in this post I will be giving my own personal definition of "progressive, along with my personal definitions of "conservative" and "liberal". These may or may not line up with 1) historic, technical, or "official" definitions of any of these terms, or 2) your own personal definitions of them. I really don't care. I'm not talking about your definitions or the official definitions, so please don't overwhelm my blog with comments like: "That's not real conservativism" or "That's not how I define progressive" or whatever. This post is only about how I tend to understand the terms.)

I've been calling myself a "progressive" (politically speaking) for a while, but up till now I mainly meant it as a sort of vague contrast with "liberal", since 1) I don't necessarily line up perfectly with what is usually thought of as "liberal", and since 2) these days it's more often used as an epithet or an insult than as a meaningful description. Progressive seemed like a better alternative, both because it has less baggage, and because it connotes something forward looking, action-oriented, and optimistic.

It's that forward looking spirit that I realized really gives progressive politics their defining character. It is a reformist approach, one that sees the brokeness in the way things are now, both in the public (e.g. government) and private (e.g. corporate) sector, but is optimistic and proactive about fixing them and working towards a better world. Progressives don't see either one of these, public or private, as the sole cause of our problems, nor as the whole of the solution, but are interested in reforming both and using both as tools towards the goal of a more harmonious and just society.

This, according to my definitions, is the difference between progressives and both conservatives and liberals. Conservatives, to greatly oversimplify (and to focus primarily on the economically "libertarian" type conservatives who seem to have taken over the movement in the past couple of decades), are those who generally see the government as the "problem" and favor laissez-faire, "free market" solutions. Liberals, on the other hand, generally see the government as the solution to most of the problems created by the "free market" and corporate rapaciousness. Progressives, by contrast, see both the government and corporations as part of the problem, but also see them both as part of the solution. Progressives don't just want to scrap one in favor of the other, we want to overhaul the whole system, in all of its parts, from top to bottom. We don't just want more government or less government, we want better government (and better industry).

So, for instance, a liberal looks at our health care industry and says "Private industry really made a mess of things, the government should fix it," and a conservative looks at the same mess and says "The government can't fix anything, it'll just make things worse. Let's just do nothing and trust private industry to fix itself." A progressive, however, says, "you're both right, the industry is a mess, and so is government, so let's fix both!" In other words, a progressive approach owns the mess, and the responsibility for cleaning it up, instead of trying to pass the buck onto whichever side they like least. A progressive tries to change the system instead of just complaining about the parts we don't like, since we realize that "the government" and "those capitalists" aren't some evil opponents out there somewhere. They are "us" (see, for instance, the first line of the Constituion, "We the people..."). We are all part of the system, and thus we all have a responsibility to try and change it for the better.

And it's an optimistic approach: it believes that we actually can change the system and make things better over the long term - that "progress" is possible - and thus encourages us to actually get involved both in the public/political sphere, as well as in our individual lives to produce change. It doesn't fall into the kind of fatalism I see all around me these days - the kind that says "nothing will ever really change, and you're too insignificant to make a difference, so don't even bother." Progressives were chanting Obama's slogan "Yes We Can!" before he ever came up with it, and we were quoting Gandhi's exhortation to "be the change you wish to see in the world", long before it became ubiquitous.

This optimism is not based on some blind faith or wishful thinking, nor even (for us progressive Christians) on some retrograde, post-millenial theology that says human effort is capable of ushering in the Kingdom of God all on its own. Instead it is based on the very simple and rather obvious fact that sweeping social change has happened many, many, many times before, and there's absolutely no reason we shouldn't expect it to happen again, and therefore no reason we shouldn't seek to play a part in shaping and directing that change. After all, just look how much has changed since the Revolutionary War, for instance, or since the original "Progressive Era" in America, or since the Civil Rights era, or since the Fall of the Soviet Union, etc... None of these changes happened magically. Real people fought and struggled and worked towards their visions of a better world, and they achieved some, if not all, of their dreams. There's no reason why we shouldn't do the same.

That's why I call myself a "progressive".

Labels: politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 4:50 PM | Permalink | 2 comments
Wednesday, April 08, 2009
Rick Warren gets caught in a lie
Sad to see Rick Warren playing the same political games of back-tracking and denial that most elected officials do these days. If he said it, he should own it, not try to explain it away. We expect this kind of evasion and equivocation from politicians, but it's sad to see a pastor do it.

Labels: politics, Rick Warren

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 10:43 AM | Permalink | 0 comments
Wednesday, February 25, 2009
Republican Hypocrisy
I watched Obama's speech last night and the Republican response by Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal, and have to say that I'm just getting more and more fed up with the constant hypocrisy and seeming collective amnesia that comes through in all the Republican rhetoric. These past few weeks they've been continually criticizing Obama for things that they did themselves when their guy was in office. For instance:

1. They stonewalled Obama's stimulus package as profligate government spending, forgetting that they themselves approved similar bills (both the TARP bailout and the stimulus checks that were mailed out earlier last year) under Bush's leadership.

2. More generally, they criticize Obama for "big government" policies, ignoring that it was Republican controlled congress and Presidency that led to a massive expansion of the federal government and turned the surplus of the Clinton years into a trillion dollar deficit during the first six years of the Bush presidency.

3. And even on little things they seem to have amnesia about who is to blame. For instance, McCain tried to criticize Obama for the upgrade of the Presidential helicopter, which he claims cost more than Air Force One, conveniently forgetting that it was Bush who requisitioned this upgrade after 9/11. (Of course, given McCain's age, it may have very well been real amnesia.)

Republicans can go on trying to paint themselves as the party of "limited government" and "fiscal responsibility", but as it turns out, they only believe in those principles when they're not the ones in power. Until their actions match their words, I don't want to hear it anymore.

Labels: Obama, politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 10:37 AM | Permalink | 9 comments
Wednesday, January 28, 2009
Hillary Challenges Human Trafficking
I was thrilled to read this comment from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during her confirmation hearings:

As Secretary of State I view these issues (human trafficking) as central to our foreign policy, not as adjunct or auxiliary or in any way lesser from all of the other issues that we have to confront. I too have followed the stories: this is not culture, this is not custom, this is criminal … I’ve also read closely Nick Kristof’s articles over the last many months on the young women he’s both rescued from prostitution and met who have been enslaved, tortured in every way: physically, emotionally, morally and I take very seriously the function of the State Department to lead the U.S. Government through the Office on Human Trafficking to do all that we can to end this modern form of slavery. We have sex slavery. We have wage slavery and it is primarily a slavery of girls and women.

I hope she follows through on this pledge. I also hope she realizes the impact that our immigration policies and prostitution laws have on the inability of trafficked women to seek help. As Jim Wallis suggests, we need to criminalize buying sex while decriminalizing selling sex, so as to dry up the demand without punishing the victims. We also need to stop prosecuting women who have been trafficked into this country for being "illegal immigrants". (Actually, I think we need to get rid of the whole concept of "illegal" immigration altogether by opening our borders, but I've already written about that.)

Labels: politics, social justice

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 12:11 PM | Permalink | 1 comments
Sunday, January 25, 2009
Obameter

This should be fun. PolitiFact.com has an Obameter, where they will keep track of how many of Obama's over 500 campaign promises he has kept, which he hasn't, and which are still in the works. Of course, this is politics, which requires that compromises be made, so naturally I don't expect that he will be able to keep all of them. And I'm sure that his political foes will use a site like this to attack him for the ones that he's failed to fulfill. However, I think it will be a good way to simply keep track of what he is accomplishing, to see that real change is actually happening. (For instance, after being President for less than a week, Obama has already made good on 5 of his promises and is currently working on 14 more.)

I heard about this on CNN, and they pointed out that Obama actually has a lot more promises to fulfill than Bush or Clinton before him ever did. In fact, Obama made more than twice as many campaign promises than either of his two predecessors, which I think goes to show that those who claimed he was all style and no substance weren't really paying attention. Nonetheless, that's a lot to live up to. Of course, I've already heard conservatives remarking that they hope (for the good of the country) that he doesn't actually fulfill his promises (since they obviously don't like his positions). Of course, since, generally speaking, I no longer share their particular political bent, I do hope that Obama fulfills many of his promises (though of course there are those that I dislike as well.) At any rate, I'm glad there's a website out there that will help all of us keep track of what our elected officials are in fact doing on our behalf.

Labels: Obama, politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 2:46 PM | Permalink | 3 comments
Monday, January 19, 2009
I Have Hope
I don't want to be naive about Obama and think that just because he's President suddenly everything will get better. Nor am I a political partisan to be overjoyed simply that we have a Democrat in the White House now. Not to mention that though there is far more that I agree with Obama on than I did Bush, I still don't agree with all of his positions or think he goes far enough in many areas (health care reform for instance). And of course my own Christian faith reminds me not to put too much hope in human leaders lest the State itself become an idol and object of devotion.

Nonetheless, I can't help but feel somewhat hopeful today. It's not just the inauguration of the first black President, though that alone is enough to make one hopeful about the progress made in race relations since Dr. King spoke of his great prophetic dream over 45 years ago. I am also hopeful because I honestly think Barack Obama will be a very good President. Nearly everything I've seen and read from him, I've been impressed by (and as a former Chicagoan, I've been following him quite a bit longer than most people from other parts of the country). Let me list just a few of the things that make me hopeful about him:

1) He's intelligent. By all accounts, he's the kind of guy who pays attention to details and really knows his stuff. In fact, he's a bit of a policy wonk from what I hear, which is a great thing in my book, since I want a President who goes beyond the speeches and rhetoric to pay attention to the specifics of what he is enacting.

2) So far he really has been a uniter, not a divider. That was his track record as a State legislator in Springfield, IL, and he has shown that same tendency in recent weeks as he's assembled his "team of rivals" for his cabinet, choosing people who don't always agree with him, but will give him more honest and diverse viewpoints to consider. He's also, on several recent occasions, expressed his openness to good ideas (especially in regards to fixing our economic crisis) no matter which side of the aisle they come from. I hope he keeps that up. And, besides his own actions, current polls show that he has an incoming approval rating of around 75%. Obviously the nation as a whole has largely come together behind this new president as well.

3) He really can, almost single-handedly, repair America's standing in the global community. It's no secret that Obama is practically a rockstar in many foreign countries. His name, his race, his personal story, not to mention his policies and positions, all speak to what is possible in this nation, and is inspirational to millions around the world. I hope this personal charisma will be combined with the new policies of openness and respect toward the rest of the world (no more of this unilateralism crap) to bring a new era of international cooperation.

4) Speaking of his personal story, I personally am given hope by the complexity of his background. Son of Kenyan and a white American, African-American in complexion (and therefore in the eyes of society as well) and yet raised by white relatives (and therefore more able than most to understand both perspectives), raised for a time in a foreign culture (and thus, once again, able to see the world through multiple different lenses), having given up a lucrative legal career to be a community organizer and use his skills to help those less fortunate... all of these experiences and more indicate to me that he is amply prepared to be exactly the kind of leader we need right now - someone able to weigh multiple viewpoints and competing truths, and choose a course based on what is good for all, not just for his own party, or even just his own nation. (BTW, for a great, and closer look at Obama's story, check out the new book by my friends Bob and Ariele, Barack Obama: An American Story.)

5) Obama's election campaign was one of the best I've ever seen. He raised his money (mountains of it) not from the usual cabal of special interest groups and lobbyists, but from millions and millions of ordinary Americans. He avoided the dirty politics and smear tactics that have become almost standard these days, even when his opponent was sinking to that level. By all accounts he listened to his campaign staff with respect, and yet was not controlled by them, sometimes sticking by his own convictions despite what might have seen most politically expedient (for example, his choice to respond to the Rev. Wright controversey by giving a substantive speech on race relations - written by himself, not a speechwriter - rather than just sweeping it under the rug as many pundits and advisors thought he should do). And through it all, he responded to every attack and every crisis with his usual implacable calm, cool-headedness. Let's hope he carries all these traits with him into running the country as well.

6) Not to mention that his wife is just really cool. Just as smart as he is and a lot funnier, though also as down-to-earth as you'd expect from a Midwestern mom from a working-class background, Michelle Obama will make a great First Lady.

And all this has mainly to do with who he is or what he's done in past. I won't even get into the things I'm hopeful about regarding his policies and campaign promises. All I want to say is that I think he is definitely the right person for this job right now. He is what America and the world needs at this moment, and while I know he will never be able to live up to all of our hopes, I don't think it is illegitimate to still be hopeful.

I also know that if Obama is going to fulfill any of these hopes it will have to be because we help him. As Jim Wallis often says (and as Obama has ripped off from him) "we are the ones we have been waiting for". Now that Obama is in office, it's time for all of us to get to work to fix the problems confronting us, and to make this world a better place, not just for Americans, but for the "least of these" all over the world. And that's one more thing I like about Obama - he's constantly reminding us of that fact. Over and over again in his campaign he referenced the fact that none of this was about him alone - it's about all of us pulling together and working together to realize our hopes. And I do have hope that that is possible.

Labels: Obama, politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 10:37 PM | Permalink | 7 comments
Saturday, December 13, 2008
Richard Cizik got resigned
So Richard Cizik, vice president for governmental affairs at the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), got resigned from the NAE for telling NPR that he suppors civil unions (but not gay marriage). Specifically he said:

In a short portion of the program, [host Terry] Gross asked him, “A couple of years ago when you were on our show, I asked you if you were changing your mind on that. And two years ago, you said you were still opposed to gay marriage. But now as you identify more with younger voters, would you say you have changed on gay marriage?”

Cizik responded, “I’m shifting, I have to admit. In other words, I would willingly say that I believe in civil unions. I don’t officially support redefining marriage from its traditional definition, I don’t think.”


Frankly Cizik's ouster over this doesn't surprise me at all. As someone who has gotten resigned from an evangelical institution myself, at least in part over my “liberal” (though I prefer to call them "biblical") political views (mine were even further left than Cizik; I was unreserved in my support for gay marriage), I know that many evangelicals can sometimes be even more dogmatic about their politics than their theology. Not to mention that there’s a growing trend towards neo-fundamentalism among many conservative evangelicals (I just wrote a 35-page research paper on the trend actually), defined by an exclusionary attitude towards those evangelicals who don't toe the narrowly defined party line. It seems that attitude is starting to infect even “big tent” groups like the NAE now.

However, there are still plenty of evangelicals out there who do agree with Cizik and appreciate his concern for the environment and the global poor, and his personal "shifting" towards increased compassion for GLBT folks. Frankly I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get a job offer from Sojourners soon. Or maybe even go start his own new organization for progressive evangelicals.

Labels: evangelicals, gay marriage, politics, Richard Cizik

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 9:47 AM | Permalink | 2 comments
Tuesday, December 09, 2008
Blago's been arrested
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6424985&page=1

And the sad thing is we all knew this was going to happen even before we elected him. I remember one Democratic friend tell me "Just vote for Rod because we all know he's going to jail, and Pat Quinn (the Lt. Gov.) would make a good governor."

Anyway, after reading that story, I really hope Obama had something to do with the FBI investigation that caught Blagojevich. I like the idea of Barack playing hardball with the political scumbags that think they can squeeze him for special favors.

Labels: politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 11:26 AM | Permalink | 3 comments
Monday, November 17, 2008
Generational Theory and Political Trends
Former Republican Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist had an interesting comment in an article for CNN recently. He said:
My teaching on the Princeton campus last year revealed to me an explosion of energizing interest in "the system" and how to make it better from within -- very different from when I was there 38 years ago and the same activism was channeled toward tearing it down.
Generational theorists confirm this statement. Strauss and Howe in particular posit four basic generation types, Idealists, Reactives, Civics, and Adaptives, with each generation being born within about a 20-year window. Thus, for example, the so-called "Greatest Generation" that came of age during World War II and fought in that great struggle were Civics, builders and influencers that were committed to building up the institutions of their society for the better. In contrast, the Baby-Boomers were of the Idealist type, spiritual innovators and prophetic types who had a deep suspicion of the institutions created by their WWII-generation parents, and thus tended to resist "the system", just as Senator Frist noted.

Frist is also correct that the generation currently coming of age, the so-called "Millenial Generation" (born between roughly 1980-2000) is of the same type as the "Greatest Generation", that is, they are institution builders, more interested in improving and adding to "the system" than in simply tearing it down. I have seen that to be the case among young people I have worked with, who really do feel passionate about making the world a better place, and I think we're going to see even more if it over the next few decades. I also think that Obama's election is a sign of this trend. His message of "Yes We Can" and "We are the ones we have been waiting for" (a line he totally ripped off from Jim Wallis) speaks perfectly to a generation ready to move forward and get to work on the big problems of our era.

However, Frist's comment also sparked a new realization in me, which is that the conservative's anti-government message of the Reagan-era, was actually surprisingly well tailored to the psyche of the Baby-Boom generation as it too came of age. We often tend to simplistically think of the Boomers merely as "liberals", i.e. the hippie flower-children who gave us the sexual revolution and the drug culture, as well as civil rights and the anti-war movement. Thus it can be typical to see their legacy simply in the more socially radical edges of the Democratic party. However, if, through the help of generational theory, we understand that the underlying motive is not simply liberalism for its own sake, but also a deep-seated mistrust of those in power and the institutions of society, and especially government, then the backlash against "Big Government" of the '80s and '90s could be seen as just as much fruit of this generation as its more Left-ward incarnations. Conservatives are "Children of the Sixties" as much as the liberals are.

Incidentally, if this generational analysis is accurate, then conservatives really are in some deep trouble in the years to come if they can't move beyond their anti-government ideologies and start providing some positive solutions to the problems our world is facing. That message will no longer resonate with a new generation that wants to see the government used as a force for good, and not simply vilified as the source of all the problems. Unless they adapt and come up with some new ideas, their support will only continue to decline as Baby Boomers start dying off and Millenials get older and more politically involved.

My own generation, Generation X, is described as "Reactives" by Strauss and Howe and tends to be more cynical of both the spiritual idealism of the Boomers, and the institutional idealism of the WWII generation and the Millenials. Interestingly, this is the generation that most emerging church leaders fall into, which perhaps explains a lot about our tendencies towards postmodern skepticism. It probably also explains why a good number of emergents tend to lean towards the neo-anabaptist attitude of disengagement from political involvement (cf. Shane Claiborne and his neo-monastic buds, or my Hauerwasian Mafia friends). The common refrain seems to be "since government can't ultimately bring about the Kingdom of God, and is usually a corrupting influence anyway, there's no point in either resisting it (as the Boomers did) or attempting to reform/improve it (as the WWII Generation did)." Instead they tend to recommend withdrawal and focusing on small, local and communal actions rather than big efforts towards systemic change.

I've written before about how, while I appreciate the insights and cautions of Shane and his cohorts, I ultimately can't be quite that pessimistic about large-scale involvement. Or perhaps it's just that I'm too pragmatic, and will not refuse to use whatever tools (e.g. politics) are available to me in the pursuit of social justice, even if I fully recognize that these tools are not perfect and will not bring about the Kingdom in and of themselves. Or, maybe it's simply that having been born in 1978, right on the borderline between Gen X and the Millenials, I don't find myself completely at home in either an overly-cynical, nor an overly-optimistic attitude towards social/political involvment. Perhaps the motto of someone stuck between the generations like myself should be "Yes We Can (Partially)". ;)

Labels: politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 11:36 AM | Permalink | 12 comments
Wednesday, November 05, 2008
Still Speechless...
I still have too many thoughts swirling in my head to write anything coherent about the election of Barack Obama. There are just so many things that I want to say about it. The first black president. The first multi-racial president. The first postmodern/post-Boomer generation president (can we finally get past the 60's?) The first president in my lifetime that I'm actually excited about. A president that can actually restore the respect that America once had among the world community. The message that someone with his face, his name, and his background communicates to the world about what America can be.

The election itself excites me too - the record turn-out, especially among younger voters. The shift of power/momentum to a younger, more diverse, and more progressive America. A new kind of campaigning that refused to stoop to mud-slinging, that maintained integrity and a steady hand, and that relied on the people for funding, rather than on big corporate lobbyists and other wealthy special interests groups. The landslide victory for Democrats, which I believe is necessary in order to start fixing so much of the damage caused by the Bush Administration over the past 8 years.

Anyhow, I'd love to talk more about all these aspects and more, but I just don't have the time and can't seem to pull my thoughts together coherently enough anyway.

Labels: Obama, politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 11:13 PM | Permalink | 0 comments
Friday, October 31, 2008
Shane says it's okay to vote!
I love a lot the stuff coming from Shane Claiborne and his other neo-monastic/neo-anabaptist cohorts, however one of things I've differed with them on is their aversion to voting as a legitimate tool for social justice. They rightly recognize that we can't bring utopia merely through politics, however I think they sometimes fail to see it as a useful tool for reaching pragmatic and proximate goals. I worry that sometimes we may fail to do all that we can to help those in need because we're too concerned about maintaining our purity from the structures of empire.

That's why I was glad to see that Shane recently wrote a post for the God's Politics blog admitting that there may be some good reasons for voting and that it might actually be permissible for some Christians to do. His main argument is that voting may be useful not for bringing about the kingdom but merely for preventing the worse of two evils. This is what a lot of us have been saying about voting for a while already, but it's good to hear someone as influential as Shane finally acknowledge it as a legitimate perspective.

Labels: politics, Shane Claiborne

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 9:34 AM | Permalink | 1 comments
Tuesday, October 28, 2008
But that's socialism... right?
"Anytime you build a road, anytime you build a school, anytime you try to create jobs, anytime you provide Social Security, you are redistributing wealth. And by the way, if we can redistribute wealth to greedy bankers, why can't we distribute some to needy Americans?"

-Newsweek editor Jonathan Alter on The Colbert Report

Labels: politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 12:17 AM | Permalink | 4 comments
Friday, October 24, 2008
Unflappable Obama
Since I don't really have time to blog this week, I thought I'd post another article from Newsweek that I particularly liked. Anna Quindlen, one of the columnists I find myself agreeing with most often, had a great piece about how steady and "unflappable" Obama has shown himself to be and how that is exactly what America needs right now. She writes:

This effect explains how Barack Obama has captured the attention and the approval of even those who, a year ago, would have been skeptical or hostile. The guy is steady. His campaign has now made the word its mantra, and, boy, has he earned the right. There has rarely been a moment when the United States needed an unflappable leader more, and there has rarely been a candidate who has so steadfastly refused to rattle.

For nearly two years the man has played his own methodical game, ignoring the cries of pundits or party regulars. During those times when it looked as though he were faltering or fading, most conspicuously after the Republican convention, when Sarah Palin seemed like a bright idea instead of a "Saturday Night Live" skit, the Greek chorus rose: Strike out! Fight back! Be tough! Be rough! Obama proceeded apace.

I have to say that I agree. I've been consistently impressed this past year at how calm and intelligent and civil Obama has remained, no matter what kind of crap his opponents threw at him. As Quindlen goes on to say "he's a smart and temperate person who is really comfortable in his own skin." That's definitely something to admire about the guy, regardless of whether you agree with his platform or not.

Labels: politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 11:28 AM | Permalink | 0 comments
Tuesday, October 21, 2008
Our Bad Economic Habits
Fareed Zakaria (whom I respect though don't always agree with), had one of the best articles I've seen regarding the financial meltdown in the last issue of Newsweek. His premise is that this meltdown could have a silver lining if it leads us Americans to kick all of our negative financial habits that we've grown accustomed to over the past three decades, especially our "buy now, pay later" mentality.

I also especially liked Zachary Karabell's article about the end of the "ownership society", which reminds us that homeownership alone will not create a healthier society - we also have to make sure we're protecting workers. For instance, he says:

In the United States, the shift away from corporate pensions to 401(k) Individual Retirement Accounts plunged millions more into the equity markets and loosened the traditional connection between companies and workers, which was one element of that 1950s dream that conservatives such as Bush conveniently forgot. The ownership society of the 1950s was anchored by a labor movement that made sure that workers received something resembling their share—remember Truman's Fair Deal? The deal for the past eight years has been fair to merchants of capital, and then some, but to the tens of millions on the receiving rather than originating end of those mortgages, fairness has been in short supply.

Excellent point.

Labels: politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 9:35 AM | Permalink | 0 comments
Sunday, October 19, 2008
Chicago Tribune Endorses Obama
While some people might consider it a no-brainer that a Chicago paper would endorse their hometown boy for president, the fact is that as one of the most conservative major newspapers in the country, the Chicago Tribune has never before endorsed a Democratic Candidate. Their endorsement of Barack Obama is therefore a major event and a strong indication of his ability to unite diverse groups in this divided country.

I found one quote particularly useful in response to any of those who continue to worry about whether or not Obama is experienced enough to be president. The Tribune editors replied to this concern with the following:
Many Americans say they're uneasy about Obama. He's pretty new to them.

We can provide some assurance. We have known Obama since he entered politics a dozen years ago. We have watched him, worked with him, argued with him as he rose from an effective state senator to an inspiring U.S. senator to the Democratic Party's nominee for president.

We have tremendous confidence in his intellectual rigor, his moral compass and his ability to make sound, thoughtful, careful decisions. He is ready.

Here is a conservative paper that probably knows Obama better than any other journalistic organization in the country saying that he has what it takes. That's a big deal, and I hope people listen.

I also like what they went on to say about why they were endorsing him:

The change that Obama talks about so much is not simply a change in this policy or that one. It is not fundamentally about lobbyists or Washington insiders. Obama envisions a change in the way we deal with one another in politics and government. His opponents may say this is empty, abstract rhetoric. In fact, it is hard to imagine how we are going to deal with the grave domestic and foreign crises we face without an end to the savagery and a return to civility in politics.

Very true. Of course Obama won't be able to single-handedly return civility to our public discourse, but after all the slime and negativity I've heard from the Republicans these past few weeks, I'm pretty confident that he'll do a heck of a lot better at it than the other guy.

Labels: politics

 
posted by Mike Clawson at 6:08 PM | Permalink | 1 comments
Layout design by Pannasmontata Header image © VladStudio